Comments on: Living Out: The problems and their solutions http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/ Mon, 07 May 2012 09:58:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Pam http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53730 Pam Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:44:36 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53730 As a 'parent'!! loved your article, Stevie - my first year undergrad is about to endure her first house share and I am fearful for her sanity as she is likely to have SERIOUS ocd!! good luck to her housemates to be!! As a ‘parent’!! loved your article, Stevie – my first year undergrad is about to endure her first house share and I am fearful for her sanity as she is likely to have SERIOUS ocd!! good luck to her housemates to be!!

]]> By: Emma http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53683 Emma Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:32:40 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53683 Haha, nice one Stevie. Really enjoyed this. I should point out, however, that being dirty and smelly is far worse than having severe OCD. My dirty smelly house-mates, however, may wish to argue conversely. I don't think any of us can wait to go out separate ways at the end of this! Haha, nice one Stevie. Really enjoyed this. I should point out, however, that being dirty and smelly is far worse than having severe OCD. My dirty smelly house-mates, however, may wish to argue conversely. I don’t think any of us can wait to go out separate ways at the end of this!

]]> By: Gethin http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53478 Gethin Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:52:16 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53478 Nick that is by far the worst lions squad I could ever have read - too much bias towards the England team methinks... Nick that is by far the worst lions squad I could ever have read – too much bias towards the England team methinks…

]]> By: Stevie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53360 Stevie Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:01:19 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53360 Very astute. And refreshingly nothing to do with the Lions. I actually personally really like Durham although I'm northern too and from a very small odd town so perhaps I just have an unreality chip on my shoulder. It wasn't the crux of the article but perhaps I shouldn't have been so flippant with my comments about the lack of realism. I sometimes feel that a lot of aspects of Durham are quite unreal, but this would be the same for any close-quarters university wherein you run into the same people every day... Durham is quite dissimilar to larger city universities like Manchester or Liverpool, but probably the same as Warwick, Oxbridge, etc. Also I am from St John's College which probably sways my opinion a bit. Very astute. And refreshingly nothing to do with the Lions. I actually personally really like Durham although I’m northern too and from a very small odd town so perhaps I just have an unreality chip on my shoulder. It wasn’t the crux of the article but perhaps I shouldn’t have been so flippant with my comments about the lack of realism. I sometimes feel that a lot of aspects of Durham are quite unreal, but this would be the same for any close-quarters university wherein you run into the same people every day… Durham is quite dissimilar to larger city universities like Manchester or Liverpool, but probably the same as Warwick, Oxbridge, etc.

Also I am from St John’s College which probably sways my opinion a bit.

]]> By: Thom Addinall-Biddulph http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53336 Thom Addinall-Biddulph Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:22:08 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53336 Whilst I do agree with George that this is a satirical article (and one which I do like) and thus not to be taken too seriously- and am also aware this is a little off the point of the article- I do have to also agree with Pete. Durham is not 'disconnected from any sort of reality'. I live, and always have lived, in London, one of the world's major cities, and I don't view Durham as being cut off from reality. It's a small town, yes, but so are hundreds of towns in the UK. My suspicion is people think it's cut off from reality more by their own decision not to leave it from time to time (no one can accuse Newcastle of being cut off from reality) and/or pay attention to the news than because of anything inherent to the place. Or possibly by 'cut off from reality' mean quieter than a big city and a long way from the capital. Both these things can certainly be viewed as positive attributes, but don't make Durham 'unreal'. Anyway, sorry again for posting this on a not-very-relevant article (perhaps someone should write an article actually on this issue...maybe I should if I stop being lazy), and none of this is an attack on anyone (@Jaqueline, agreed on the level of animosity, not just on D21). Feel very free to ignore me if you wish. Whilst I do agree with George that this is a satirical article (and one which I do like) and thus not to be taken too seriously- and am also aware this is a little off the point of the article- I do have to also agree with Pete. Durham is not ‘disconnected from any sort of reality’. I live, and always have lived, in London, one of the world’s major cities, and I don’t view Durham as being cut off from reality. It’s a small town, yes, but so are hundreds of towns in the UK. My suspicion is people think it’s cut off from reality more by their own decision not to leave it from time to time (no one can accuse Newcastle of being cut off from reality) and/or pay attention to the news than because of anything inherent to the place. Or possibly by ‘cut off from reality’ mean quieter than a big city and a long way from the capital. Both these things can certainly be viewed as positive attributes, but don’t make Durham ‘unreal’.

Anyway, sorry again for posting this on a not-very-relevant article (perhaps someone should write an article actually on this issue…maybe I should if I stop being lazy), and none of this is an attack on anyone (@Jaqueline, agreed on the level of animosity, not just on D21). Feel very free to ignore me if you wish.

]]> By: George (author) http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53299 George (author) Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:38:29 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53299 Ah, sorry for putting (author), I'm still logged on from commenting on my own article; that wasn't an attempt at plagiarism or anything Ah, sorry for putting (author), I’m still logged on from commenting on my own article; that wasn’t an attempt at plagiarism or anything

]]> By: George (author) http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53297 George (author) Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:19:35 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53297 Pete: Sorry MATE, but this kind of antipathy towards any divergence on the part of other people towards your opinions doesn't exactly do much for the quality of debate. However, considering the time it was posted, I will assume that this anger was down to lack of sleep To be honest, I think that the fact that Durham is disconnected from any sort of reality is part of its charm, and I wouldn't describe this article as 'Durham-bashing' per se; merely a wry look at certain of the university's foibles. It's called humour. Pete: Sorry MATE, but this kind of antipathy towards any divergence on the part of other people towards your opinions doesn’t exactly do much for the quality of debate. However, considering the time it was posted, I will assume that this anger was down to lack of sleep

To be honest, I think that the fact that Durham is disconnected from any sort of reality is part of its charm, and I wouldn’t describe this article as ‘Durham-bashing’ per se; merely a wry look at certain of the university’s foibles. It’s called humour.

]]> By: Jaqueline http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53281 Jaqueline Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:16:38 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53281 there is far too much animosity on d21 atm, i really think people should just read articles, comment if they enjoy them or if something particularly riles them, and even then, it should be done in a discursive way as opposed to just calling it shit but hey what do i know i'm just a balanced person there is far too much animosity on d21 atm, i really think people should just read articles, comment if they enjoy them or if something particularly riles them, and even then, it should be done in a discursive way as opposed to just calling it shit but hey what do i know i’m just a balanced person

]]> By: Pete http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53260 Pete Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:03:24 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53260 Jack, Firstly I'm not your mate, so don't patronise me and make a fool of yourself. Want me to 'get a life' - what are you auditioning for an Australian soap? Cliches are for idiots, I always enjoy it when people prove they're idiots for me. If this constitutes satire its a saddening sign of the times; and if you find it funny then.... well.... I think I'll take the comment exactly as it written, attempted satire or not. And I'll both enjoy my time here and criticise nonsense when I see it. Thanks, but I didn't ask for your advice and I doubt I'd profit from it. Jack,
Firstly I’m not your mate, so don’t patronise me and make a fool of yourself. Want me to ‘get a life’ – what are you auditioning for an Australian soap? Cliches are for idiots, I always enjoy it when people prove they’re idiots for me.

If this constitutes satire its a saddening sign of the times; and if you find it funny then…. well….

I think I’ll take the comment exactly as it written, attempted satire or not. And I’ll both enjoy my time here and criticise nonsense when I see it.

Thanks, but I didn’t ask for your advice and I doubt I’d profit from it.

]]> By: Jamie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53166 Jamie Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:47:01 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53166 This article made me laugh, as did the comments- id like to get barries number if possible This article made me laugh, as did the comments- id like to get barries number if possible

]]> By: Jack http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53150 Jack Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:45:12 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53150 Pete, mate, get a life: it's a bit of satire, not an in-depth assessment of Durham's virtues. I'd stick to 'making the most' of your time in Durham rather than making comments like that. Stevie, v funny, well done. Pete, mate, get a life: it’s a bit of satire, not an in-depth assessment of Durham’s virtues. I’d stick to ‘making the most’ of your time in Durham rather than making comments like that.

Stevie, v funny, well done.

]]> By: Pete http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-53099 Pete Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:13:40 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-53099 "this is Durham, and therefore completely disconnected to any kind of actual reality". I don't get it when people say this. A great many people live in towns and cities under 100,000 people in this country and around the world - do their lives have less value, are they living in a 'reality void'? Just characterisiing a place as non-reality or trivial or inferior is just absurd. What, is everywhere that is not London not reality? Let me tell you someting I heard from a post-graduate student who returned to study for a phd in Durham after having a job in Dublin - everywhere is its own little bubble, if you get an office job the office will be its own community with many of the idiosyncracies of Durham or any university/college environment. If you live in a big city the district of that city will have its own character and local politics and social feel. What is with all the Durham-bashing that goes on all the time? Its not pleasant or helpful and its belittling to those of us who enjoy being here and want to make the most of it. By the way, your article would be an insult to a free local advertiser. “this is Durham, and therefore completely disconnected to any kind of actual reality”. I don’t get it when people say this. A great many people live in towns and cities under 100,000 people in this country and around the world – do their lives have less value, are they living in a ‘reality void’? Just characterisiing a place as non-reality or trivial or inferior is just absurd. What, is everywhere that is not London not reality?

Let me tell you someting I heard from a post-graduate student who returned to study for a phd in Durham after having a job in Dublin – everywhere is its own little bubble, if you get an office job the office will be its own community with many of the idiosyncracies of Durham or any university/college environment. If you live in a big city the district of that city will have its own character and local politics and social feel. What is with all the Durham-bashing that goes on all the time? Its not pleasant or helpful and its belittling to those of us who enjoy being here and want to make the most of it.

By the way, your article would be an insult to a free local advertiser.

]]> By: Barrie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52956 Barrie Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:11:33 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52956 Now as a female post-grad I can fully understand the rollercoaster that is LIVING OUT. On the one hand you have the freedom and also real life responsibilities that you simply don't get in halls but on the other hand you have to deal with the mess from your new housemates. There is a whole host of problems that can emerge - stolen food, wasted electricity, dags in the bathtub, late rent etc etc. I say just ENJOY the ride. Barrie, 23. Now as a female post-grad I can fully understand the rollercoaster that is LIVING OUT. On the one hand you have the freedom and also real life responsibilities that you simply don’t get in halls but on the other hand you have to deal with the mess from your new housemates. There is a whole host of problems that can emerge – stolen food, wasted electricity, dags in the bathtub, late rent etc etc. I say just ENJOY the ride.

Barrie, 23.

]]> By: Nick Lions http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52955 Nick Lions Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:37:20 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52955 Cheers Stevie, got confused by the use of a fella's name! Still, many women are becoming involved at base level, and there has even been talk of a female lions tour. Ant, I agree the Nad issue could get messy if allowed to roam free on the pitch. Cheers Stevie, got confused by the use of a fella’s name! Still, many women are becoming involved at base level, and there has even been talk of a female lions tour.

Ant, I agree the Nad issue could get messy if allowed to roam free on the pitch.

]]> By: John England http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52952 John England Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:42:05 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52952 Phil Godman at 10!!! You must be out of your f***ing mind fella! Reverting to the original article, which I thought was well written although suffers somewhat from being absolute clarrie, I'd like to address each "problem" in turn if I may:- 1. I lived in an all lads flat in my 2nd year... It was super, although I suspect the girls who lived door didn't find it so f***ing funny when we carried on putting pheasants' heads through their letter box, or when we decided to throw frozen burgers at their windows... Really what I'm trying to say Stevie is that your point isn't well made, but, is there any chance of getting my hands in the till, so to speak? 2. Jerry Flannery. 3. John Hayes. 4. Young Bobby Lamb. Phil Godman at 10!!! You must be out of your f***ing mind fella!

Reverting to the original article, which I thought was well written although suffers somewhat from being absolute clarrie, I’d like to address each “problem” in turn if I may:-

1. I lived in an all lads flat in my 2nd year… It was super, although I suspect the girls who lived door didn’t find it so f***ing funny when we carried on putting pheasants’ heads through their letter box, or when we decided to throw frozen burgers at their windows…
Really what I’m trying to say Stevie is that your point isn’t well made, but, is there any chance of getting my hands in the till, so to speak?

2. Jerry Flannery.

3. John Hayes.

4. Young Bobby Lamb.

]]> By: Stevie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52927 Stevie Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:59:20 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52927 Sadly I have no opinion of the Lions squad, however, I am most certainly getting down with a team that combines pace in the ladies with a bit of grunt in the engine room. That is a fantastic turn of phrase. I think they should just use actual lions. It would make it a lot more interesting. But I'm a girl so I don't know about these things. Sadly I have no opinion of the Lions squad, however, I am most certainly getting down with a team that combines pace in the ladies with a bit of grunt in the engine room. That is a fantastic turn of phrase.

I think they should just use actual lions. It would make it a lot more interesting. But I’m a girl so I don’t know about these things.

]]> By: Ant http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52916 Ant Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:10:25 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52916 Yeah thanks for that one Nicola, but we've moved on from there to more relevant discussion. Nick: that's an interesting team that you've named. However, its distinctive by its lack of Welsh players. Why is this? Welsh rugby at base level is the strongest in the world, and we must therefore encourage them with the carrot of Lions Rugby. Latest from South Africa is that Rico Nad will be avaiable for the first test, and i think Wilko will be the only man in the world who can counter the Nad threat. Yeah thanks for that one Nicola, but we’ve moved on from there to more relevant discussion.

Nick: that’s an interesting team that you’ve named. However, its distinctive by its lack of Welsh players. Why is this? Welsh rugby at base level is the strongest in the world, and we must therefore encourage them with the carrot of Lions Rugby.

Latest from South Africa is that Rico Nad will be avaiable for the first test, and i think Wilko will be the only man in the world who can counter the Nad threat.

]]> By: Nicola http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52915 Nicola Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:58:18 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52915 Hello Stevie i was recently stalking you on facebook (sorry) and noticed a buzz about this article. I bet your pleased to learn that your advice is reaching us down in Leeds..well actually just me but i will pass on your message...well maybe or infact not. Really impressed, as all these are all the problems i expect to face come September. The only contradiction i can make is in regards to problem 4 as i just made tikka masala for all my flatmates...well apart from the one who doesnt speak to us, which i should really sort out. Much Love my intellectual friend Nicola 236 London Road (hell yeah) xxx Hello Stevie
i was recently stalking you on facebook (sorry) and noticed a buzz about this article. I bet your pleased to learn that your advice is reaching us down in Leeds..well actually just me but i will pass on your message…well maybe or infact not. Really impressed, as all these are all the problems i expect to face come September. The only contradiction i can make is in regards to problem 4 as i just made tikka masala for all my flatmates…well apart from the one who doesnt speak to us, which i should really sort out.

Much Love my intellectual friend
Nicola 236 London Road (hell yeah)
xxx

]]> By: bob hoskins http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52913 bob hoskins Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:20:25 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52913 I don't know why this article is so talked about. Steve, you were better in cheaper by the dozen than father of the bride. I don’t know why this article is so talked about.

Steve, you were better in cheaper by the dozen than father of the bride.

]]> By: Nick Lions http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52911 Nick Lions Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:01:09 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52911 Ant, please see below for a team that combines pace in the ladies with a bit of grunt in the engine room 1. Andy Sheridan 2. Jerry Flannery 3. John Hayes 4. Jason White 5. Dave Ellis 6. Tom Croft 7. David Wallace 8. Jamie Heaslip 9. Harry Ellis 10. Phil Godman 11. Ugo Monye 12. Gavin Henson 13. Brian O Driscoll 14.Simon Danielli 15. Delon Armitage Ant, please see below for a team that combines pace in the ladies with a bit of grunt in the engine room

1. Andy Sheridan
2. Jerry Flannery
3. John Hayes
4. Jason White
5. Dave Ellis
6. Tom Croft
7. David Wallace
8. Jamie Heaslip
9. Harry Ellis
10. Phil Godman
11. Ugo Monye
12. Gavin Henson
13. Brian O Driscoll
14.Simon Danielli
15. Delon Armitage

]]> By: Ant http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52910 Ant Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:36:20 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52910 Stevie. You seem like a knowledgeable character, what's your opinion on the Lion's squad for the forthcoming tour? Stevie. You seem like a knowledgeable character, what’s your opinion on the Lion’s squad for the forthcoming tour?

]]> By: Duke Spiffwaddington III http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52908 Duke Spiffwaddington III Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:37:56 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52908 Is that Lezley the Lezbian?! Chum! Is that Lezley the Lezbian?! Chum!

]]> By: Stevie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52902 Stevie Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:17:06 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52902 Birt, no I didn't write the comments myself. Obviously. I would prefer just comments about the article like yours to be honest but I can't control the fact that my friends are a bunch of mental people (apparently). Birt, no I didn’t write the comments myself. Obviously. I would prefer just comments about the article like yours to be honest but I can’t control the fact that my friends are a bunch of mental people (apparently).

]]> By: Lezley http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52875 Lezley Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:54:36 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52875 Steve, as one of the great American MALE comedy actors how do you have time to research your articles in such depth? Surely not between shooting Father of the Bride sequels? Steve, as one of the great American MALE comedy actors how do you have time to research your articles in such depth? Surely not between shooting Father of the Bride sequels?

]]> By: Birt http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52868 Birt Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:27:41 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52868 Well I thought it was bollocks. And are you sure you didn't write all the comments too, just for fun. I grudgingly hand it to your flans remark though... Well I thought it was bollocks. And are you sure you didn’t write all the comments too, just for fun.

I grudgingly hand it to your flans remark though…

]]> By: Stevie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52846 Stevie Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:19:04 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52846 i always look forward to peoples comments on articles and now you've all ruined it with your jollities. Thanks DURHAM REVUE. THANKS A LOT! Pfft. i always look forward to peoples comments on articles and now you’ve all ruined it with your jollities. Thanks DURHAM REVUE. THANKS A LOT! Pfft.

]]> By: Stevie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52845 Stevie Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:17:50 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52845 I was in cheaper by the dozen. I was in cheaper by the dozen.

]]> By: Tom http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52844 Tom Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:16:06 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52844 Calm down Steve. It was a bloody good read. I enjoyed both the problems and solutions. Do you play mixed Lax or is that a different Steve Martin? Calm down Steve. It was a bloody good read. I enjoyed both the problems and solutions. Do you play mixed Lax or is that a different Steve Martin?

]]> By: Stevie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52843 Stevie Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:11:50 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52843 And you, Ben... whoever you are. And you, Ben… whoever you are.

]]> By: Stevie http://www.durham21.co.uk/2009/03/the-problem-and-solution-to-living-out/#comment-52842 Stevie Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:11:19 +0000 http://www.durham21.co.uk/?p=4388#comment-52842 I hate both of you. I hate both of you.

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